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2020 Pantheon Seed

$250.00

5.0 (7 reviews)

Specs:
Length – 32.5″
Width – 9.3125″
Wheelbase – 20.25-22.75″
Tail Angle – 7.5 degrees

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Description

2020 Pantheon Seed
Slalom Downhill Race Deck

 

Get to know the Seed

Heard good things about our previous Seed deck? Yea, I bet you did. An extremely functional board with an ultra-modern concave and next level construction, the Seed sets itself apart from the competition in every conceivable way. Expect to see it on the podiums.

The Seed is designed for high speed downhill, gripping hard corners, and pumping in HS or GS slalom. The world has caught on with the slalom downhill board craze, and the race podiums of the 2019 downhill race season made it clear that smaller wheelbases and skinnier trucks were capable of hitting lines that other setups just weren’t. While slalom setups have been dominating grip’n’rip downhill courses like Maryhill Festival of Speed for years, only in the most recent year or two have they started showing up at other, more technical races–and winning.

The bottom line is that this type of setup is a ton of fun. Enhanced control and grip have the ability to be maximized on such a setup, and the razor thin edge of control on a board like this is exhilarating to ride!

What Changed on the 2020 Seed

After over a year of team riders and others riding the original Seed, we can say that we finally had enough experience to formulate some some opinions about what we liked vs what we felt like we could improve upon. We used those opinions to develop the Summit Series Seed–our first attempts at full-length carbon layups with soft-wood cores. What popped out of that project was the best feeling slalom-downhill board anybody rode all year–and if you have a different opinion, it’s probably because you didn’t get the chance to try one. For those who know, you know what I’m talking about.

Following a year of producing these carbon decks in super small batches, we had to step away from the passion project and find a construction that we could actually produce at a profit with a manufacturer that could make them more consistently. Truthfully, we were losing money on downhill boards because of all the blemished carbon boards and the lack of profit built into the project. That said, that year offered incredible experience on this new design, and we spent most of the year trying to secure a new manufacturing process which could create a more durable board and offer more value. And we found it!

The new 2020 Seeds are an entirely new construction process. They are a bit heavier than the old carbon decks, but significantly more durable and also less expensive! The bonds are tighter, the core material is harder and tougher, the urethane rail wraps all the way around the deck, and the composite layers are way stronger. Overall, the deck feels stiffer and heavier than the carbon, and it does a hell of a lot better job at sucking up road vibration.

The Shape

First thing you’ll notice is the spoon nose. The Seed has a tapered, surf-style nose. This is not only aesthetically appealing, but it also feeds your foot into a proper downhill stance. An angled front foot helps open up the hips and puts less strain on your joints, allowing you to put your body into a more aerodynamic tuck, more ergonomically. This open stance favors the heel-side of the deck, and will naturally put your front foot a little more heel-side on the board. To compensate leverage for this, because slalom decks are so front truck dominant, we spoon the nose to increase leverage at the toe side of the deck near the front. Balancing the toe and heel-side of the board improves control, and an added side benefit of greater wheel clearance is also achieved as well as allowing opportunity for cleaner looking lines, benefitting the aesthetic appeal.

The tail is designed so that the ball of the foot fits right at the base of the tail crease, just like you’re putting a foam wedge on the deck. If you still feel inclined to put a wedge on it, do it! But our goal is to make a perfect skate deck right out of the box. We expect riders will adjust the front truck placement according to their stance, based on the rear foot sitting right in that position. Additional rear mounting options help refine the wheelbase and offer further freedom for adjusting your rear foot’s leverage over the trucks. The new wedge makes the Seed feel much more like a classic slalom deck!

Finally, there is a W bubble leading into the tail that peaks right at the base of the tail crease. This is a feature that literally no other board shape has replicated, and we are leaving this comment here until someone figures it out and does it! What this does it is automatically aligns your rear foot so that you don’t have to look down, and it places the ball of your foot in a gentle, 3-sided pocket between the rail, the tail wedge, and the W concave. You’ve got all the leverage in the world in this position, and the W concave vanishes into the tail as the wedge lifts up, just like it was never there. You won’t feel the W on your heel, but it is right on the inside of the ball of your foot where you need it. Riders will notice little to zero shifting between heel and toeside turns and slides with this feature, and it is subtle enough to still feel very ready to take on cones!

Full Length Composite Construction

In order to produce the most functional and durable construction, we revised the construction of the new Seed to a fiberglass composite with a snowboard style top and bottom sheet. The core of the board is made from machined solid maple. The entire board is wrapped with a urethane bumper. The Seed is fully waterproof. This board is more resistant to the elements than any production board we’ve ever made. Don’t use it as a wakeboard (we have not tested its flotation qualities), but feel free to shred this thing in any and all conditions.

Setup Guide

This board should really only be purchased by someone who is willing to set it up properly. It is definitely a specialty design and needs to be coupled with a specialty setup, with trucks likely somewhere in the 115-150mm range and wheels to match the trucks which will set the outer lip near the max width of the deck, which is 9.3125 inches. I set mine up with 115mm on Valkyrie DH Slalom trucks and Venom Magnums and have also found great success with 124mm DontTrip Slalocybins. Randal 125mm will work for a lower cost cast truck, but you should find yourself one of those old-school 35 degree baseplates and dewedge the back a bit. You can also run up to a 150mm truck with a centerset slide wheel, and you’ll still be rail matching! A lot of people are setting this up with Rogue Downhill Slalom. All are great choices and none really leave anything to be desired. The important part is that you recognize the following:

Note: A 7 degree dewedged Khiro wedge will essentially bring this board to flat. We are producing limited runs of 10 degree angled risers that we will list as an add-on for sale on this page. This will suck 3 degrees off your rear truck, so if you’re running a 30, it will become a 27, for example. 

Specs:
Length – 32.5″
Width – 9.3125″
Wheelbase – 20.25-22.75″
Tail Angle – 7.5 degrees

7 reviews for 2020 Pantheon Seed

  1. Bee (verified owner)

    If you enjoy the occasional small board or if you genuinely have small feet this board is a must.
    Subtle concave in the back slower getting deeper the closer you go to the front standing platform has kept me locked in without problem. Weather your back foot falls snug on the standing platform or wedged in the tail mount this board feels comfortable when sideways no matter which direction you slide. From freeride to dh this board is not only comfortable going fast but the beautiful wheelwells leave ample space for big trucks or big wheels.
    With a 9.4” wide and 32” long this board is an easy to go travel companion.
    Id give the seed an easy 10/10 without a flaw I’d address!
    Ps pantheons carbon wraps are way pretty and crazy stiff (spend the extra money, it’s worth it)

  2. Mike (verified owner)

    I set mine up with 118 Slalocybins and Venom Mach 1s. I had never ridden a setup like this and I’d never done slalom before but this board freaking rips. Super stable and stiff and leaves me smiling. The only downside is that now I want a downhill specific summit series. To go with it. I absolutely love this board.

  3. Charlie Heth (verified owner)

    I recently got on a loaner Summit Series Seed and have my 2020 pre-ordered. I am mainly a freerider, but my stance is so small and my style is so aggressive that a slalom setup was the obvious next step. I fell in love with my friend’s in less than two hours of riding before deciding I needed this deck. Here’s what you need to know about this deck.

    The nose, while not aggressive, feels to lock me in better than some of the more aggressive nose concaves I’ve tried in the past from other companies. It’s super comfortable and my foot feels right at home. While this is cool and all, I think the real star of the show is what happens in the back half of this deck.

    I’m not going to lie, I was skeptical at first about how I’d feel about a tail-mounted back truck, but it feels amazing. The way the tail interacts with your foot for slides is the coolest feeling I’ve experienced to date. For both heel and toesides, it gives my foot a reference point, much like a drop, but with no sacrifice to grip or maneuverability. The W in this deck is my favorite feature. It’s big, but at the same time isn’t uncomfortable. I find the W to be perfect for pushing into, and with the tail intersecting with the W, it feels like my foot couldn’t ever slip. I’ve thrown standup heels and toes on Mango Alphas and 115mm hangers and still haven’t experienced any feeling of foot slippage.

    I run my Seed with Slalom Valkyries and mainly Seismic Defcon Alphas/Tantrums.

  4. Mateo

    I just got my pre-order 2020 seed this year might be whack, but this board is way to legit the satin finish on the road side and polished finish on the grip side is crazy and looks like it’s glow in the dark. It is not though. The grip tape cut my fingers too I’m super stoked about it. Thanks for making this happen in these strange much love guys stay gnarly!

  5. Gabriel Pursley (verified owner)

    I had the opportunity to source a carbon seed from Canada just before ordering the v3. Both the v2 carbon and the v3 seed are absolutely amazing in different ways, but the overall feel to the v3 is superbly jaw dropping. Every inch of the board had detail put into its design and it is hands down the best DH deck! Great work!

  6. Michael

    3 Disclaimers about my review:
    1: I am riding a 2019 prototype. It does not have wheel wells or the final graphic. Apart from that, I believe everything else is the same.
    2: I am pretty new to DH skating. I consider myself to be past the complete beginner phase, but not quite an intermediate rider. Call me a noob, ha.
    3. I’m not going above 30 MPH. I know, why buy a Seed if you aren’t going to hit high speeds and go crazy? Leave me alone and let me live my life.

    Rider Info: 5’10”, 155 lbs, size 10.5 feet. I’m riding in hilly metro Atlanta and the mountains of N. GA. Only ridden a few other DH boards and used them mostly for light freeriding.

    My stance is on the smaller side so I decided to give the Seed a shot when I saw it available. This board has been amazing. To be honest, I was hesitant to buy it. Everything I’ve read about the Seed says that it’s a highly specialized board meant for advanced riders willing to put on precision trucks and go very fast. As a relatively new rider, I thought it would be weird for me to try it out. It’s simply not built for people like me.

    Nonetheless, I love this thing! I’ve tried it on a few “cheaper” setups like 129/149mm street trucks, 150mm RKPs, and Slalocybins (not cheap, I know). This thing rips! It’s actually helped me learn how to slide, rip around tight turns, and generally control my board on hills better than anything I’ve tried before (only about 5 boards, tbf). I did my first proper standup slide on this thing on the first day, and I had notable growth on toeslides and Colemans as well. It started as a board that I thought I’d try for a few weeks before selling to someone who can maximize its capabilities. Now, I can’t see myself ever getting rid of this thing.

    I have a theory about why the Seed works for a beginner like me. I’ve only been skating for a few years and in the last 12 months, I’ve used a Pranayama as my primary commuter and a Comet Cruiser as my daily all-arounder. Both of these boards force me to use a smaller stance. They’re narrower and, perhaps most importantly, give me loads of control when compared to similar boards. So when I moved to the Seed, I was kinda familiar with the loose ride. I actually prefer it. I don’t mind the sort of wild feeling because I know I have lots of control to correct myself. It feels like a similar type of ride in those ways.

    The weight of the Seed coupled with the shorter deck and perfect W concave made me feel extremely secure when hitting sharp turns. The tail shape, while odd for me to see at first, works exceptionally well with the concave because it puts my feet in a natural position to carve and slide at speed. When I went for my first few slides, my feet felt safe and it felt more forgiving with my body position. I know that goes against what many expect, but that was my experience. Because it’s so nimble and maneuverable, I was able to carve at speeds on which I’d typically be afraid to move around. Again, not exciting for advanced riders, but this board made me progress more quickly than I could have expected.

    Conclusion: Look, I know I’m not the target audience for the Seed. Jeff 100% was not thinking about new riders like me when building this thing. It’s a precision-made, purpose-built board. And yet, it has worked for me better than any other DH deck I’ve tried. I don’t even have it set up to reach its full potential and it’s already opened new ways of riding for me.

    If you’re someone who’s new to the DH scene and worries that such a top-tier board is beyond you. Reconsider. The Seed may actually help you refine skills that make you more capable on other setups. It has for me. I won’t ever take this board to its limits, but it stretches mine. And to me, that makes it worth every penny.

    P.S. Thank you to Chase Hiller for selling this prototype to me. Also, per usual, thank you to Jeff for patiently answering my simple questions and guiding me with setups that are suitable for where I’m at as a skater. All the best!

    • Jeff V.

      Hey Michael, I appreciate the review! I normally don’t respond to reviews and tend to just let them stand for themselves, but I had something I wanted to add here. While I know we are mostly showing off the Seed under the absolute most talented riders we can find, I assure you that I am not one of those riders. I am merely just an okay downhill rider, myself. But shapes like this aren’t built only very super advanced riders–it’s just that they take a good bit of effort to set up well, so we don’t tend to recommend them to beginners because they aren’t exactly ready to go right out the box. If people are willing to put in the effort, boards like this are a ton of fun to ride once they are dialed. Actually, the first time I ever did a toeside standup, it was on a slalom board. The kink in the tail and turny front combine for great weight distribution (because the front initiates all the turn, so you’re naturally opting your weight up there) and great leverage for pushing the board around, using that crease in the tail. On top of that, we added the W concave into that tail crease, and it has even further increased back-end control and leverage. I am super proud of this mold and deck, and even as a low-key downhill path deck, which is mostly what I’m doing with it, personally, it really amplifies the fun available around tight corners. I think it makes a great board for just about any speed of riding, and I’m stoked you found that out through your experience. Thanks again!

  7. Carlos M.

    The 2020 Seed is my fourth downhill deck, and by far my favorite. I have smaller feet and a tighter stance, and this board fits me really well. I run Mk. 2 Valkyrie Slaloms 115mm-125mm, mostly with Seismic Alphas and 76mm Hotspots. I have used it on tight, technical bike paths, straight bombs, open roads, and just recently, the Maryhill Loops.

    Everything about this deck is thoughtfully designed and there for a reason. The nose concave is medium-aggressive, and the surf-style nose encourages you to stand right on top of the front truck. It’s quite comfortable, locks you in, and helps you feel the rails without being too aggressive. The rear concave is masterful. There is almost no traditional “concave” to the rails around the tail crease, meaning you can press into them without any obstruction or sharp points, and the W bubble supports the arch of your foot and locks you in while remaining almost unnoticable when you aren’t using it. In my mind, this is the perfect combination. Excellent rail feel but no pressure points, and complete support from the center of the board. The width also tapers dramatically towards the tail crease, down to around 8.4 inches, which aids in edge-to-edge transitions (especially for people like me with small feet). The upward sweep of the tail is gentle. It’s much less aggressive than a torque block, and you almost don’t notice it until you go back to a more traditional downhill shape and suddenly realize that your feet are a little more lost than you’re used to.

    The construction of this board is very unique and completely bomber. It’s essentially made out of a thick, tough plastic material, sandwiched around a hard maple core, with full urethane rails. I feel like this board will never die. I really don’t see how I could break it. It’s taken some curbings, been flipped over, thrown around, and has basically zero damage to show for it. It’s also quite heavy for its size, and the plastic gives it a very damp feeling which is weird initially, coming from wood, but feels really nice. Oh, and it’s stiff. It has zero longitudinal flex, and less torsional flex than my 2020 CHiller (which is to say, almost none). If you can find one of the 2020 generation used, I would feel very confident in its structural integrity.

    The Seed is such a brilliant shape, and fundamentally different from anything else on the market. The only changes I would make, specific to my use and setup, would be a slightly narrower profile, especially in the front, and a wedged front flush mount for my Valkyries (which only come with a 45 degree front baseplate – I wedge them to 49 degrees). And it looks like my prayers are being answered with Andy’s 2021 pro model Seed. I will be pre-ordering/buying one of these the second they become available.

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